"All you ever need to hear" sounds like the honey of Truth. :) And then i think to myself: well, today i need to hear silence...and hope to hold a tiny bit of zen essence in my heart. Thanks for your various refreshing things Joan. :)
I love how freely you share not just your wisdom but wisdom that teaches you. You are such a generous teacher. Though I know you’d not call yourself that. You are a generous fellow traveler.
Reading the excerpt you shared from Delving in your last post, I felt compelled to search it out and download the free e-version. I have read through it once so far and am simultaneously moved by the words while becoming stilled by the wisdom that shines through the spaces between the words and ideas. I know I will go back and read Delving again and again. Thank you.
"Delving" will certainly be ordered - thanks for the recommendation.
Resonates fully with my experience of zen, from the nuggets you've shared...and if it is, as you say, a little book - so much the better!
I would hesitate to draw such a rigid line between experiencing and theory/science though - in my view our (almost) immediate experiencing will inevitably be influenced by what we think we know about reality...can't help it...but I get the need for expressing it in such stark terms.
But there is absolutely a need in me to bring the awe back into the arena...without that, what's the point? And you do that. I wish you well.
Thanks, and I think you'll enjoy Delving. I don't feel he's drawn a rigid line between the spiritual and the scientific (or subjective and objective) approaches. He's simply pointing out that trying to think and analyze our way to awakening isn't what works. But that doesn't mean thinking has no place at all. However, the more fully present we are here and now to the bare actuality of present experiencing, the less our immediate experience is colored and shaped by our conditioned views about what we're seeing, hearing, feeling or sensing. 🙏
I'm just wary of fixed categories - particularly when we're talking about matters like perception and perspective, relying as they do on so many factors as yet not thoroughly understood...
Joan..... Your recommendations are always great! Loved the John Butler talk... it somehow transported me back to Springwater Center and it felt like listening to one of Toni's talks. Also, "Delving" looks very interesting and I am ordering a copy. I'll be in touch soon about talking... Much Love to You.
Well...I guess I've had "Delving" for around 3 weeks now, although it feels MUCH longer. I only get the opportunity to read books on my days off from work, so it can take a while to complete them...and this means that when a book really resonates, there is a great deal of pleasure involved in the activity.
This hasn't, however, been the case with "Delving"...
Turns out that, for me, Joan's quoted nuggets that slapped me in the face (in a good way😂) were the gold - pretty much the only gold.
I have a habit of turning down page corners when content leads to "aha!" - with this volume...two corners turned down...TWO!
Compare this with "Nothing to Grasp" or Robert's 4T and DONT - a plethora of corners!
Well, we all resonate with different things, and sometimes what speaks to us in one moment doesn't resonate at all in another moment. My new post ("Relax") speaks to this. And of course I'm very happy to know that NTG has a plethora of corners. 😎
"All you ever need to hear" sounds like the honey of Truth. :) And then i think to myself: well, today i need to hear silence...and hope to hold a tiny bit of zen essence in my heart. Thanks for your various refreshing things Joan. :)
I love how freely you share not just your wisdom but wisdom that teaches you. You are such a generous teacher. Though I know you’d not call yourself that. You are a generous fellow traveler.
Thank you for all you give!! ❤️
Thank you for the recommendations, Joan. And, how’d you know I planned on cleaning the house while listening to the talk? 😉 Ok, I’ll sit 🥰
Immense gratitude for your being you, Joan.
Reading the excerpt you shared from Delving in your last post, I felt compelled to search it out and download the free e-version. I have read through it once so far and am simultaneously moved by the words while becoming stilled by the wisdom that shines through the spaces between the words and ideas. I know I will go back and read Delving again and again. Thank you.
Hey Joan!
"Delving" will certainly be ordered - thanks for the recommendation.
Resonates fully with my experience of zen, from the nuggets you've shared...and if it is, as you say, a little book - so much the better!
I would hesitate to draw such a rigid line between experiencing and theory/science though - in my view our (almost) immediate experiencing will inevitably be influenced by what we think we know about reality...can't help it...but I get the need for expressing it in such stark terms.
But there is absolutely a need in me to bring the awe back into the arena...without that, what's the point? And you do that. I wish you well.
Thanks, and I think you'll enjoy Delving. I don't feel he's drawn a rigid line between the spiritual and the scientific (or subjective and objective) approaches. He's simply pointing out that trying to think and analyze our way to awakening isn't what works. But that doesn't mean thinking has no place at all. However, the more fully present we are here and now to the bare actuality of present experiencing, the less our immediate experience is colored and shaped by our conditioned views about what we're seeing, hearing, feeling or sensing. 🙏
Yes - stated in that way, I absolutely agree...
I'm just wary of fixed categories - particularly when we're talking about matters like perception and perspective, relying as they do on so many factors as yet not thoroughly understood...
Thanks again!
Joan..... Your recommendations are always great! Loved the John Butler talk... it somehow transported me back to Springwater Center and it felt like listening to one of Toni's talks. Also, "Delving" looks very interesting and I am ordering a copy. I'll be in touch soon about talking... Much Love to You.
Well...I guess I've had "Delving" for around 3 weeks now, although it feels MUCH longer. I only get the opportunity to read books on my days off from work, so it can take a while to complete them...and this means that when a book really resonates, there is a great deal of pleasure involved in the activity.
This hasn't, however, been the case with "Delving"...
Turns out that, for me, Joan's quoted nuggets that slapped me in the face (in a good way😂) were the gold - pretty much the only gold.
I have a habit of turning down page corners when content leads to "aha!" - with this volume...two corners turned down...TWO!
Compare this with "Nothing to Grasp" or Robert's 4T and DONT - a plethora of corners!
Anyway, just thought I'd share😂
Well, we all resonate with different things, and sometimes what speaks to us in one moment doesn't resonate at all in another moment. My new post ("Relax") speaks to this. And of course I'm very happy to know that NTG has a plethora of corners. 😎
Of course mate - we're all coming at living from different directions (maybe similar in some ways, maybe not) and changing continuously...
Have a great day!🙏