I wouldn’t call my view anti-spiritual so much as post-spiritual—no religion, no God, no destination. What appears is already complete, needing no transcendence or backdrop. Nothing denied, nothing beyond—just this, as it is.
I appreciate reading both you and Joan. A friend gave me Joan's book, Awake in the Heartland in 2007 and I discovered your work through Joan in 2024. It's a long and winding road.
Thanks, Robert. I appreciated a recent post of yours about how your perspective and expression has evolved. I certainly don't experience you as against what to me is at the heart of spirituality, and post-spiritual is a good description. (Steven Harrison, whom I knew many years ago, also used that term to describe his work. He wrote "Doing Nothing: Coming to the End of the Spiritual Search" and "What’s Next After Now? Post-Spirituality and the Creative Life" among other titles). ❤️
Joan and Robert, I really love how you two love each other. It helps the parts of myself that identify with each of you, respectively, get along better. ❤️
Thank you so much Joan 🙏 It is so funny how the arrangement of some words just flow by, and other arrangements can produce a shift…a swerve. “We may experience it by letting it take hold of us, but we cannot ourselves take hold of it.” Yes. We can feel so alone sometimes, and then someone will share their realness, their being, and we know we are not alone, perhaps even a bit of being “one”.
Thank you Joan for your monumental gathering of wonderful words of wisdom, from great teachings from many tradition's A reminder of the ever present simplicity of the ever present Now. june
Hola ¡moltes coses molt complert, postres massa, es fa llarg però val la pena, molt.
Potser ens menystenim un xic massa no aprovem la nostra actuació ho podríem haber-ho fet millor.
Sempre la actuació pot ser d'infinites maneres però és la que es i, segurament la millor possible. Acceptar es el primer comprendre que el fer sigui el que sigui sempre es el millor que pot passar a partir d'aquí en podem prendre conciencia i estar oberts a deixar sortir del nostre interior la reacció i comprendre que pot ser deguda a una infinitat de circumstàncies no sabudes, llavors pot ser no donar-li tanta importància.
Com deia al principi fer que qui llegeix-hi el post senti ganes de participar de contestar ja que les diferents opinions poden donar riquesa.
Just beautiful, Joan. The peony and the first quote…wow.
Orange and red leaves dancing off the trees, lots of wind and rain here in Vancouver. I’ve started fussing at my thumb cuticle so I think of you often….
Ah… have missed your writing of simple words outlining the simplicity of just being … it’s a greater challenge in this culture, I’ve observed, as it’s denizens are so busy with finding “self” and the desire to be “free” and “unique” - and iMage of self as a somebody et cetera … and, God… the whole concept of consciousness itself as a only human quality… the “other-ing” and yet having no real faith or trust in this conceptualisation of God, or self for that matter, and destiny? To think we only have “control” or “choice” in how we “feel” about what simply is… that we’re only BE-ings … “How do you do” was the common greeting in the white 1950s - no greeting of peace or being … only DOing … oh how we tried to change this in the 60s — looking into so many other ways of being and now… ouch, here we are at the edges of what Maggie Mead’s baby daddy wrote in “Steps to an Ecology of Mind” - a technologically “advanced” culture with a view of God as outside self in a hierarchy & now with chances of survival more & more like that proverbial snow ball in Hell … can only breathe and know I chose to risk having a child, to enculturate him in west Africa, now with 5 multicultural grandkids raised without violence in the hope that we can still shift, one child at a time, the trajectory of this narcissistic sociopathic (TV & screens do not emote) binary society of doing …and just be …
Thank you Joan. I often feel a sense of peace reading your words…I think there is a transmission that comes with them. It’s like a gigantic jar of warm honey being poured over me from above. 🫶
The Magnitude of God
The Magnitude of God ..... Thank you for this Gift.
I feel a kind of gentleness in this offering, landing softly in my heart, just where it has always been.
Thank you Joan
Beautifully said, Joan. Very you. <3
I wouldn’t call my view anti-spiritual so much as post-spiritual—no religion, no God, no destination. What appears is already complete, needing no transcendence or backdrop. Nothing denied, nothing beyond—just this, as it is.
I appreciate reading both you and Joan. A friend gave me Joan's book, Awake in the Heartland in 2007 and I discovered your work through Joan in 2024. It's a long and winding road.
Thanks, Robert. I appreciated a recent post of yours about how your perspective and expression has evolved. I certainly don't experience you as against what to me is at the heart of spirituality, and post-spiritual is a good description. (Steven Harrison, whom I knew many years ago, also used that term to describe his work. He wrote "Doing Nothing: Coming to the End of the Spiritual Search" and "What’s Next After Now? Post-Spirituality and the Creative Life" among other titles). ❤️
Thanks, Joan. I, too, feel that we harmonize on the crux of it. I've seen that often since we first met. <3
Joan and Robert, I really love how you two love each other. It helps the parts of myself that identify with each of you, respectively, get along better. ❤️
This lovely piece came at the exact time I've been dancing around all these themes. Thank you! _/|\_
Thank you so much Joan 🙏 It is so funny how the arrangement of some words just flow by, and other arrangements can produce a shift…a swerve. “We may experience it by letting it take hold of us, but we cannot ourselves take hold of it.” Yes. We can feel so alone sometimes, and then someone will share their realness, their being, and we know we are not alone, perhaps even a bit of being “one”.
Thank you Joan for your monumental gathering of wonderful words of wisdom, from great teachings from many tradition's A reminder of the ever present simplicity of the ever present Now. june
Hola ¡moltes coses molt complert, postres massa, es fa llarg però val la pena, molt.
Potser ens menystenim un xic massa no aprovem la nostra actuació ho podríem haber-ho fet millor.
Sempre la actuació pot ser d'infinites maneres però és la que es i, segurament la millor possible. Acceptar es el primer comprendre que el fer sigui el que sigui sempre es el millor que pot passar a partir d'aquí en podem prendre conciencia i estar oberts a deixar sortir del nostre interior la reacció i comprendre que pot ser deguda a una infinitat de circumstàncies no sabudes, llavors pot ser no donar-li tanta importància.
Com deia al principi fer que qui llegeix-hi el post senti ganes de participar de contestar ja que les diferents opinions poden donar riquesa.
Apa ¡que hi hagi una bona traducció
Just beautiful, Joan. The peony and the first quote…wow.
Orange and red leaves dancing off the trees, lots of wind and rain here in Vancouver. I’ve started fussing at my thumb cuticle so I think of you often….
You and Robert make such a difference in my life.
Uau! (That’s wow in Portuguese.) Muito brigada🙏
Having a tough day. Your writing and the quotes are most helpful. Patience, persistence, compassion. Thank you Joan. Love, Tom ❤️
Ah… have missed your writing of simple words outlining the simplicity of just being … it’s a greater challenge in this culture, I’ve observed, as it’s denizens are so busy with finding “self” and the desire to be “free” and “unique” - and iMage of self as a somebody et cetera … and, God… the whole concept of consciousness itself as a only human quality… the “other-ing” and yet having no real faith or trust in this conceptualisation of God, or self for that matter, and destiny? To think we only have “control” or “choice” in how we “feel” about what simply is… that we’re only BE-ings … “How do you do” was the common greeting in the white 1950s - no greeting of peace or being … only DOing … oh how we tried to change this in the 60s — looking into so many other ways of being and now… ouch, here we are at the edges of what Maggie Mead’s baby daddy wrote in “Steps to an Ecology of Mind” - a technologically “advanced” culture with a view of God as outside self in a hierarchy & now with chances of survival more & more like that proverbial snow ball in Hell … can only breathe and know I chose to risk having a child, to enculturate him in west Africa, now with 5 multicultural grandkids raised without violence in the hope that we can still shift, one child at a time, the trajectory of this narcissistic sociopathic (TV & screens do not emote) binary society of doing …and just be …
🌬️♥️♥️
Absolutely❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Yes, indeed.....
Thank you Joan. I often feel a sense of peace reading your words…I think there is a transmission that comes with them. It’s like a gigantic jar of warm honey being poured over me from above. 🫶