Thank you for curating this offering. I am aware of this tragedy in the midst of so many happening around the world. “Let thinking just be thinking” and not become the end all and be all.
Ezra Klein has done 4 excellent shows recently on the situation in Israel-Palestine. I highly recommend them all, but especially the last two, one with a Palestinian, the other with an Israeli:
Ezra prefaced those two by saying: “Before there can be any kind of stable coexistence of people in Israel and Palestine, there will have to be a stable coexistence of narratives. And that’s what we’ll be attempting this week on the show: to look at both the present and the past through Israeli and Palestinian perspectives. The point is not to choose between them. The point is to really listen to them. Even — especially — when what’s being said is hard for us to hear.” Here they are:
Conversation with Yossi Klein Halevi, a Jewish Israeli author and senior fellow at the Shalom Hartman Institute in Jerusalem: https://youtu.be/EVeh-26rCdQ?si=oEGpdlmvjgLEbfkB – this episode significantly changed my thinking, gave me much more appreciation and sympathy for the Israeli perspective, and also gave me a little bit of hope for the future, which I had not had.
I also recommend this podcast of Sam Harris, which I had avoided listening to but finally did, has led me to question much of my thinking and many of my beliefs around all of this. I don't completely agree with everything Sam says, but it highlights a dimension of this conflict that many on the left, myself included, have been ignoring to our peril, and I think it is actually a very important dimension. Sam speaks about the importance of understanding both Islamic ideology and anti-Semitism, and the importance of not ignoring this: https://youtu.be/oFBm8nQ2aBo?si=LRsTGdMVk1FlL2T6
Finally, Naomi Klein has an excellent chapter called "The Unshakable Ethnic Double" in her book Doppelganger, which I am currently reading.
May we all keep an open mind and an open heart, with compassion for both sides (which doesn't mean there can't be discernment and strong actions).
Naomi Klein has a chapter called “The Unshakable Ethnic Double” in her book Doppelganger which explores anti-Semitism, Zionism, and the situation in Israel-Palestine.
This is a really beautiful post addressing the horrors going on and how to be with them. Thanks for posting Joan.
I am deeply thankful to you.
Thank you for curating this offering. I am aware of this tragedy in the midst of so many happening around the world. “Let thinking just be thinking” and not become the end all and be all.
So beautiful. Thanks for sharing. ❤
Thanks 🙏
Ezra Klein has done 4 excellent shows recently on the situation in Israel-Palestine. I highly recommend them all, but especially the last two, one with a Palestinian, the other with an Israeli:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdMrbgYfVl-szepgVpArP0obwYgbKdfvx
Ezra prefaced those two by saying: “Before there can be any kind of stable coexistence of people in Israel and Palestine, there will have to be a stable coexistence of narratives. And that’s what we’ll be attempting this week on the show: to look at both the present and the past through Israeli and Palestinian perspectives. The point is not to choose between them. The point is to really listen to them. Even — especially — when what’s being said is hard for us to hear.” Here they are:
Conversation with Yossi Klein Halevi, a Jewish Israeli author and senior fellow at the Shalom Hartman Institute in Jerusalem: https://youtu.be/EVeh-26rCdQ?si=oEGpdlmvjgLEbfkB – this episode significantly changed my thinking, gave me much more appreciation and sympathy for the Israeli perspective, and also gave me a little bit of hope for the future, which I had not had.
Conversation with Amjad Iraqi, a Palestinian-Israeli, senior editor at +972 magazine and a policy analyst at the Al-Shabaka think tank: https://youtu.be/ou9dq90PihU?si=dSDQnc1vY4erpECO
I also recommend this podcast of Sam Harris, which I had avoided listening to but finally did, has led me to question much of my thinking and many of my beliefs around all of this. I don't completely agree with everything Sam says, but it highlights a dimension of this conflict that many on the left, myself included, have been ignoring to our peril, and I think it is actually a very important dimension. Sam speaks about the importance of understanding both Islamic ideology and anti-Semitism, and the importance of not ignoring this: https://youtu.be/oFBm8nQ2aBo?si=LRsTGdMVk1FlL2T6
Finally, Naomi Klein has an excellent chapter called "The Unshakable Ethnic Double" in her book Doppelganger, which I am currently reading.
May we all keep an open mind and an open heart, with compassion for both sides (which doesn't mean there can't be discernment and strong actions).
DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES ON ISRAEL-PALESTINE-GAZA:
Glenn Loury and Robert Wright: https://youtu.be/zbscM6ss4Tk
Sandy Tolan: https://scheerpost.com/2023/11/17/humanity-has-failed-gaza/
Democracy Now: https://www.democracynow.org
Scheerpost: https://scheerpost.com
Chris Hedges with Medea Benjamin: https://youtu.be/FN5FgiwYGp0
Sam Harris: https://youtu.be/oFBm8nQ2aBo
Yuval Noah Harari: https://samharris.org/episode/SE55A958943
Ezra Klein with Israeli: https://youtu.be/EVeh-26rCd
Ezra Klein with Palestinian: https://youtu.be/ou9dq90PihU
Bari Weiss: https://www.thefp.com/p/you-are-the-last-line-of-defense
Triggernometry: https://youtu.be/V57DNSF7y7Y
Ayaan Hirsi Ali: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12629243/raised-curse-israel-pray-destruction-jews-AYAAN-HIRSI-ALI-Hamas-ISIS.html
Marc Lamont Hill: https://youtu.be/F1omv_nKk38
Miko Peled: https://youtu.be/-8M0mYzD8ZY
Max Blumenthal: https://youtu.be/d0gECjlpXF8
Jewish Voice for Peace: https://www.jewishvoiceforpeace.org
Col. Larry Wilkerson: https://youtu.be/q8SdlzMuwsc
Naomi Klein has a chapter called “The Unshakable Ethnic Double” in her book Doppelganger which explores anti-Semitism, Zionism, and the situation in Israel-Palestine.